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ETCH CAST - Episode 4 - The White Frame

Lacey Gilleran
Oct 09, 2025
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Welcome back to the shadows. Episode 4 of ETCH CAST is here, and this time it’s just Philip and Morgan — two friends, two filmmakers, and one long conversation about the strange, exhausting, and occasionally transcendent act of animating dark fantasy.

This week, Morgan moves from co-host to guest as we trace the decade-long creation of The Spine of Night — from sketchbooks and rotoscopes to full-blown madness. We talk about why hand-drawn animation still matters, how every frame becomes its own little spell, and what it takes to keep a vision alive when you’re staring at thousands of drawings that may never blink back.

Also inside: the strange alchemy of fantasy and horror, the toll and joy of living inside a project for years, and one very specific Rob Zombie tangent. Plus, our running segment What Lurks in Our Queue — this week featuring monstrous books, cinematic curiosities, and a few dark gems we can’t stop thinking about.

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